all comments in blue are my commentary
What this asshole spells out is the Democrat Plan to commit TREASON at the worst, and a constitutional crises in the least. Read the following story and what you'll find revealed is the Democrat Party Plan to give victory to our enemies. The Democrats only concern is to pull out of Iraq and the war on terror at all costs.
Never mind that such an action would be read by this enemy as a greenlight that they have won in the Middle East, but it would also give them the signal to activate the thousands of sleeper agents that are already here inside the U.S..
The Government knows of at least 12 Hamass and Hezbooha active cells in New York, Flint, Phoenix, L.A., and Philly. These are groups that train members to pack themselves with explosives and detonate themselves in Subways, on Buses and in Malls.
That is the alternative to the War on Terror that the Democrats are going to bring on in replace of fighting in Iraq. No matter what we do, Fight them or Retreat. They will continue to fight us. You can not achieve peace by choosing not to fight. We can not choose for the enemy. They have already chosen to kill us, period. The only way to stop them is to fight them or die.
The Democrats are choosing for YOU, and they choose that you should die.
Obey berates woman over war funding, later apologizes
By Jeremy Jacobs and Susan Crabtree
March 09, 2007
House Appropriations Committee Chairman David Obey (D-Wis.) berated a woman who approached him in a Congressional corridor, claiming that “idiot liberals” don’t understand the war supplemental spending bill process. The altercation was videotaped and posted on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAlkfYczY4c. “We’re trying to use the supplemental to end the war,” Obey said. “You can’t end the war if you’re going against the supplemental. It’s time these idiot liberals understood that.” David Swanson, a liberal blogger with AfterDowningStreet.org, posted a YouTube video of the encounter on http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/19392 and sent the link to reporters Thursday night.
The unidentified woman told Obey she was the mother of a Marine who had been deployed to Iraq who was experiencing post-traumatic stress disorder and wasn’t receiving adequate treatment from military hospitals. She then asked why Obey was not cutting off funding for the war.
Obey responded that the Washington Post has been running numerous stories on the inadequacies of military hospitals and that Congress is holding hearings on the topic, adding that the supplemental spending bill includes extra money for military healthcare.
(Yet I'll bet this asshole wants Government Run Healthcare which is what directly has led to the conditions at Walter Reid)
A few moments later he grew angry and began attacking liberal groups for failing to understand how the supplemental bill, of which he is a sponsor, would affect the war. (yeah the moonbats are to stupid to know Treason when it's right in front of them)
“The liberal groups are jumping around without knowing what the hell is in the bill,” he bellowed. “You don’t have to cut off funds for an activity that doesn’t exist.”
“The language we have in the resolution ends the authority for the war,” he added. “It makes it illegal to proceed with the war. You don’t have to de-fund something if the war doesn’t exist.”
(And that is TREASON and outside their constitutional authority)
It is unclear if Obey was aware he was being videotaped. Most of the video is shot from waist level. (of course he didn't know or he wouldn't have been so honest) House rules for the media stipulate that members of Congress must approve when they are being videotaped. But this footage was apparently not shot by a member of the media.
Obey stressed the need for liberal groups to understand that cutting off military funding means de-funding important military programs, such as hospitals for veterans.
“I’m not going to deny body armor. I’m not going to deny funding for veterans’ hospitals and for defense hospitals so you can help people that have health problems. That’s what you do if you go against that bill,” he added. (no instead he is going to cut off re-enforcements and make those that are there illegal bulls that have been gelded)
Asked about passing a resolution to end the war, Obey screamed that they did not have the votes.
“We don’t have the votes to pass [a resolution],” he yelled. “We couldn’t even get the votes to pass a non-binding resolution one week ago. How the hell do you think we’re going to get the votes to cut off the war?”
(So instead they are trying to make defending ourselves ILLEGAL forcing a surrender)
“You cut off the funding,” an onlooker replied.
“How, if you don’t have the votes?” Obey roared in response. “That bill ends the war! If that isn’t good enough for you, you’re smoking something illegal. You’ve got your facts screwed up.”
(because the fact is this bill cuts the funding without saying it cuts the funding. Typical Democrat logic)
“We can’t get the votes! Do you see a magic wand in my pocket?” he continued, opening his suit jacket as if to display an empty pocket. “We don’t have the votes for it. We do have the votes if you guys quit screwing it up. We do have the votes to end the legal authority for the war, that’s the same as de-funding it.”
(in essence surrendering to the Terrorists and inviting them to activate their cells here inside the U.S.)
When The Hill contacted him Friday about the videotaped encounter, Obey immediately apologized for getting angry with the woman, saying that his immense frustration about “this stupid war” boiled over.
“Once in a while that frustration boils over, I wish it hadn’t but you cannot continue conversations forever,” he said.
He also continued to skewer “liberal groups” for failing to inform the members and the public that the war supplemental spending bill contains language aimed at ending the war. (yes please make that CLEAR TO EVERYONE. This is a Surrender Bill)
“Let me be frank: That kind of encounter is the kind of frustration this stupid war is causing across the board,” he said in an interview with The Hill. “I’m trying to figure out how to get the votes [for a spending bill] that is going to try to end our participation in that Iraq war.”
When the woman asked him whether he was going to vote for the supplemental, that further aggravated him because, as the lead sponsor, of course he was. Tensions had already been riding high, he said, because this week protesters had been “sitting in” his district office and have refused to leave at the end of the business day and were arrested.
“What so frustrated me about the encounter is that it became apparent that she had no idea that the bill she was being asked to tell me to vote against would set a deadline for our getting out of Iraq,” he said.
“So many of these liberal groups don’t adequately inform their members. They don’t have the full story about what we’re trying to do and they wind up not being able to distinguish their friend from their enemy. These people won’t take yes for an answer.”
He said he and Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Reps. John Murtha (D-Pa.) have been spending “night and day” trying to figure out a way of the war in Iraq. Instead of trying to help them in the task, the members of liberal groups are viewing them as the enemy rather than their friends, Obey said.
“When you have misinformation or lack of information put into their head’s, it’s a disservice to them and to me,” Obey said. “I respect their views. But I would hope they would also respect mine and others on the Hill who are working so hard to find a way out of this.” (how about winning, there's a novel idea)
Obey’s proposed supplemental bill, entitled the “U.S. Troop Readiness, Veterans’ Health and Iraq Accountability Act,” expands funding for veterans’ health care and hospitals and stipulates that the Bush administration must meet standards of troop readiness before deployment to Iraq. It also states that the Iraqi government must meet Bush’s benchmarks for reform in order for our troops to remain in the region. The legislation sets a deadline for complete withdrawal from Iraq by Sept. 8, 2008, but also states that troops would be withdrawn earlier if Iraqi government fails to satisfy Bush’s benchmarks.
Obey went on to stress his opposition to the war, that he voted against it from the very beginning and that he was the first member of Congress to call for former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld’s resignation. He said the supplemental bill provides greater resources to the very veterans the woman was expressing concern about.
“If the president wants this funding, he has to accept a timeline for an orderly ending of this war,” he said.
(No he doesn't You as a member of congress have one choice and one choice only. Cut Funding or NOT, there is no IN BETWEEN in the Constitution. You CAN NOT dictate the details of how the war is fought. That is the Constitutional Domain of the President)
“I hate this war,” he continued “It’s the worst foreign policy disaster in my life time. It’s extremely frustrating when you see groups that cannot be united because they don’t agree with each other on the timeline or they don’t agree 100 percent.”
At the end of the interview Obey again said he was sorry about his outburst then cut off questions, saying he needed to get to a hearing.
“I’m sorry that the frustration happened to erupt in that hall,” he said. “I wish it hadn’t. If these groups would inform people before they hit the Hill…we might have a better chance to have the votes to end this thing.”
The only way to "end this thing" is with Victory. Retreat will only embolden the Terrorists to activate their cells here in the U.S. sooner rather than later. We have elected a pack of Pussies and Fools to make the decisions that will effect all our lives. The Democrats have decided that it is better to fight the terrorists here in the U.S. rather than in the middle east. 3000 of our brave men and woman have died to keep the barbarian horde from our shores. Those deaths are tragic, but this war should be hailed as the greatest achievement in the history of the world. Never has a war lasted as long as this, with so few falling. We lost that many people in hours in WWII and in minutes at Gettysburg. They enemy wants to kill us whether here or there is our choice. The Democrats are choosing for all of us that we are better off fighting this war HERE.